Sunday, December 21, 2008

others: "ulla enna da sonne " , me: "unmaya sonnen !!"

hi

too long since my last post.. 

quite busy with my gaming activities and my stupid laptop, crashing more often. 

there is a virus in my system, that dumps every single byte of physical memory available free with some junk. Hope some geeeeks out there can help me .. 

ok.. what is this post about ???

as you all know, ( quite a few know i guess xD) .. i got placed in a dream company .. SYMANTEC ( still i doubt whether there is two 'M' in the company's name) .. 

the experience of attending the interview was great .. so, i thought i can share few things about that with my beloved friends !! ( you are kidding.. ofcourse i am )

ok .. i thought i might want to upload a picture .. but currently i cant .. 

its my system and can crash anytime.. thanks to autosave feature.. 

ok .. here it is .. all my rounds of interview .. be patient and dont be laughing with every answer of mine ..!!!!!

First round:

what is so important about the first round ?

first of all.. i am not much qualified to attend a dream job .. still .. with no confidence .. attended the first round of interview .. thanks to suren and suresh !!

1 ----- 2 ----- 3 ---- 4

here is the seating arrangement .. 

1. ME

2. Suresh

3. Suren

4. Venkat

me and venkat just toed with suresh and suren in the first round of interview .. 

i solved all of the aptitude questions on my own .. 

then i copied some 30 questions from suresh .. like .. bababcdbdbadbcdbd way !!

u know wat he had his page completed.. but me left with two questions.. 

i forgot .. that idiot dint attend 2 questions .. and i copied in some stupid fashion way !! 

other technical questions were quite obvious for me ( i dont know the answer for heaven's sake)

i had to guess a lot !!!

selected for the first round .. me, suresh, venky !!

unlucky for suren .. 

i dint have any of my certificates and so had to go home to fetch them .. 

Tambaram seemed like a endless travel in the crowded 21G bus .. 

finally reached home .. and grabbed everything i got in my hands !! 

my time slot was at 4 .. i reached home by 2 30 and have to reach college again by 4 !! 

ok .. everything set .. reached college by 3 50 .. i was in time !

Second round: 

The round was quite technical .. 

when i reached the vivekanda auditorium where the interview was conducted .. venky was already there . 

some other friends from MIT .. i have no idea who they are .. were also there 

after 30 mins or something, suresh came out !! 

he was followed by a handsome looking guy ( gayyyyyyyyyyyyy .. i am not gayy .. ) 

he said suresh " kavala padatha pa .. next time you can surely make it .. we have summer interns and can hire u guys through that " 

me and venky : nasama pochu .. machan .. lets leave da .. 

only geeks suren and suresh .. were rejected .. how am i suppose to get in ?

? --- this is for big question mark .. i dint get it much bigger than this !! 

then ... some others ( almost everyone ) were coming out .. 

i heard from someone attending interview previously .. that the questions were entirely on testing and few technical .. 

the symantec guys gave us a form .. self testing or something .. 

the form had columns and box for every field that u have to evaluate yourself .. 

like.. C, C++ , java , QA, Database, DS, OOPS and something one more .. 

i wrote everything just a little above .. like 7 .. 

i left the one with QA (testing) --- exactly it was looking like this .. 

"QA na i know Question and Answer .. vera ethum theriyathu" so left that blank !! ( bless god.. he knows what i know ) 

then i went to the interviewer !! 

he was young .. "ahhh . i can put bit in this first round and escape " 

lucky to my watever u call it .. 

he just left me .. with wat i am .. 

i told him i am a game geek .. presented 5 paper presentations and published a paper ( impressive .. ) .. won many prizes at school level tournament in chess ( am a district chess champ !! ) .. participated essentially in many debates  ( won all of them .. no exceptions ) .. 

he was impressed .. u know my file holds about a hundred of my school certificates and few of my college certificates ( only one marksheet !! ) 

inter: so, can u write a program in java with database connectivity ?

me : no sir , i am not well versed with java ( if he asked the same with C, i still dont know the answer) 

inter: ok .. can u write a query that brings up information of all persons with names starting with 'a' ?

me: sure .. ( after a while wrote a db query .. dont ask me what it is .. god's sake .. i dont remember ) 

inter: ok .. good .. i want u to implement this in db in any language u know 

me: i can do in JSP .. 

inter: fine then .. carry on .. ( and he left ) 

in 5 mins, i wrote it fully and was waiting for him .. he came back and checked it .. 

pretty good .. ( i am good at jsp i guess !!) 

inter: what are the components of rmi ?

me: ( i forgot it really .. trust me ) .. sir, i dont remember rite now .. 

inter: havent u heard of stub and skeleton ?

me: ( ahh .. ) .. oh yeah ( proceeded with a detailed analysis of stub and skel and a rmi program

inter: hmm .. ok .. so wat do u know about testing ? 

me: i know something .. but .. 

inter: he interupted me .. why u havent given anything on QA ?

me: with my smile ( evil smile .. someone says so ) .. sir, honestly i dont know what is QA 

inter: with his smile, it means quality assurance.. testing .. comeon .. why do u need testing .. 

( small break here .. while i was waiting outside .. a guy told venky, me and some other MIT guys about testing. Alpha testing, beta testing and he was explaining these two. Venky skipped other testings .. so i remember only two of the above testing methods .. how am i going to deal with it in the questionare.. watch ) 

me: sir, developers usually do testing to their products and find it valuable or worthy. when these developers do testing among themselves, it becomes alpha testing. When the user does testing it becomes beta testing. ( this is easy for anyone to say.. but that is not what i wanted to say ) 

actual answer: sir, i am a game geek. i play a lot of games and a valued player in some games. In those games, like maps, ( counter strike ), they provide a new map or new feature and test it among themselves. Such testings, they call as the alpha testing. only developers to this kind of testing. After testing the game features newly implemented. they choose certain players, only high level players who can exploit every feature and ask them to use the product and report any errors or bugs they find. currently i am playing a game called ragnarok .. in that game, it is an online server game. In that game, every feature they implement, they ask players like us ( includes me !! ) to test for some bugs, or lags, or the server hangs or some other problems and this they call beta testing. So am currently doing few beta testing. Ultimately what they gain is, when u find the feature is too annoying or causes a problem in the system, the players can switch to other servers. So, by these testing philosophies, they are gaining the trust of customers. By beta testing, they allow customers to actively participate, which results in a very long term understanding relationship. 

( u know .. i dont even know a single word before i spoke .. everything finally grouped and became my answer .. ) 

he was pretty much impressed .. they had a column for remarks .. 

he wrote like " he knows a lot about testing, but doesnt know what is testing" .. 

and i am done .. 

Questions i answered perfectly:

1. How does yahoo mail system work?

2. Server client models, architecture models with examples and few db queries

3. Three puzzles, took a little time, but i solved all of them

4. A little from Distributed systems, before he went further, he knew i am good at DS

5. Wrote a Datastructure for a mobile phone

6. Wrote the same mobile phone thing with oops with all features of OOPS !!

ok .. pretty good .. 

i had a few management course certificates, computer course certificates and other paper presentation certificates and showed him .. he was impressed anyway !!

( about my other rounds .. i will write again .. either updating this or a new post .. kindly comment .. i dont find this funny in writing, but when i say .. u will laugh like hell ) 

6 comments:

SaranyaDevi said...

Nee thirundhave matiyada???
Enna response idhu?thu...

adhuvum smile???hmm??

Vijay Chidambaram said...

Fraud. I didn't know how much this suited you when I kept this nickname da. Fraud.

Jegan said...

others: "ulla enna da sonne " , me: "unmaya sonnen !!"

Awesome Title machan..

Unknown said...

en da, pudicho pudikkaamalo symantec la place aakitu, maththavangalta virus removal paththi kekkuraya?

Jegan said...

@Thanu
Good Point machan...

@Fraud
Touching idea da... Your last post in 2008 is about Your Placement...

Pradep Kumar said...

Dei Velaaikku Serndha apparam itha ezhuthu da. Ippo edhaavathu Symantec kaaranga un blog a padichi aapu vechida pooranunga :-P . Ushaarrrr